I’ve heard that the anime skipped a lot of content, so where exactly are we at this point? Have we reached the halfway point of the manga, or did this thing race so fast through the story that we’re already at the end?
I don’t read any manga, so I can not comment on how good that manga must have been, but at this point I consider Deadman Wonderland to be a good adaptation. I disagree that cutting out a lot of material makes it a bad adaptation: that’s just something that was unfortunately inevitable considering the difference in length of both mediums. Instead, I’m much more interested in whether the creators actually managed to tell a story, or whether or not they’re just randomly copying and pasting events without thinking of how they’d translate over to animation. What Manglobe is currently doing with TWGOK, for example, or the way in which Yumekui Merry tried to resolve itself last season, or an even better example: Togainu no Chi; those are what I consider to be adaptations who seriously missed the mark. They just don’t come together at all. I do admit that this series doesn’t show Manglobe at its best, though: they really need to make another original story again, because that’s what they really shine at.
Having said that though, this episode wasn’t as good as the previous ones due to Ganta being a bit too emo through its course. And angst on its own isn’t bad or anything, but it rather prevented him from doing anything. The beginning of the episode also created drama using failure in communications, which really aren’t my favourite. I can understand that it wasn’t obvious to everyone that the microchip was bugged: they clinged to it as their ticket out of the hellhole that is Deadman Wonderland, and with everything that was thrown at them, an extra explosion doesn’t sound weird. But why didn’t Shiro just say that the chip was bugged? There would have been much better ways to keep her out of the scene that followed it, although that bit of tension between her and Ganta was really good.
Also, surprisingly this episode did what I hoped: it brought life to the surviving members of the resistance. It didn’t show their background or anything, but in the aftermath scene this series surprisingly treated them not like disposable test dummies, but rather as actual characters. The kind of people you can have a nice chat with.
And really, apart from Ganta and perhaps that information leaking dude (who lost his mind a bit too much here), I enjoyed all of the characters here. For me, they’re a huge strength of this series, remaining genuine despite the madness that gets thrown at them.
Rating: * (Good)
Not seeing ep 10 yet, up to 9 the plot is about the same, things are simply removed up to this point. Several characters are completely missing, many interactions between characters are also missing. But the story itself is pretty much the same so far.
“…but at this point I consider Deadman Wonderland to be a good adaptation.”
How can you make this assumption if you if havent read the manga? You dont have anything to compare to. Read it, seriously.
@Aecen
They also skipped a few (albiet small, but still important) story arcs. In the manga, several weeks has passed at this point, since ganta was enrolled in deadman wonderland. Because of the removal of the story arcs, and everything is rushed, he has only been there for a few days.
Either way, read it psgels, THEN conclude how good of an adapation it is.
Hell yeah, only a little more untill we get to see why Owl is to be feared.
From what I’ve heard, the anime is trying to cover the first arc of the manga (about 21 chapters) in one cour so at the very least it’s moving at a really fast pace.
Rex: that’s the point I tried to make: from the perspetive of someone who hasn’t read it and knows nothng about what’s going on in the manga, it is a good adaptation. I’ve had this discussion about a ton of other series before, but I just don’t have the time to also check out the original source material.
Some characters were cut but thats not so bad at this point: they were never supposed to play any role in this arc. They can easily be introduced in S2 anyway.
I don’t think you can judge how good an “adaption” is without reading the source material. You can just judge how good the anime on its own is. FMA first season was a great show, however, was it really a good adaption? I don’t think so. Deadman Wonderland has been good so far, except as others said, they are really rushing the events.
You can’t say something is a good adaptation of a manga if you HAVEN’T READ THE MANGA. It’s like doing a review of a movie you haven’t seen. You can call it a good series, if you want, but you can’t claim you haven’t read the manga, but think the anime is a good adaptation. It makes you look stupid, as if you don’t know what the word “adaptation” means.
Deadman Wonderland has been good so far? the character design/animation is fucking bad, the fights are lame and the story is like a Elfen Lied rip-off + crappy cliche shounen. The manga is enjoyable but this adaptation…
Anime should be at around 1/4th of the manga right now.
Sorry for double post, but I’m wrong. More like 1/3rd or 1/2. I just thought it was less because of the amount of stuff they’ve cut out.
i think u stupid, maybe because review is stupid.
anime of deadman is stupid, because the manga is better and original. if u have a book that is very thick and full of story , and try to cram it into 12 episode series, u will end up with stupidity.
deadman anime is stupid.
Hmm, I haven’t watched anime yet, but are people just bitching about the fact it has less subplots and characters? I like subplots and characters, but hey, it doesn’t make it automatically bad xD
As a manga reader, I don’t consider this show a good adaptation. I’m not going to whine about characters that have been removed (they can be introduced with ease in the event of a second season) but all scenes are rushed, some important explanations are omitted while useless stuff is usualy kept. And if the producers somehow decide to add an anime original ending in the last episode, I will consider it a terrible adaptation. And yes, reading the source material is necessary to judge an adaptation, no doubt about that.
And yes, you can’t judge an adaptation without reading the source material.
Sorry, I meant to delete that last line, but I got distarcted and forgot.
Honestly I think that is the problem in all media (books are a great example). My suggestion is to watch anime first than read the manga, you will enjoy it much more. On it’s own the anime is pretty good.
How can you say you have no time to read manga too when you watch hours of anime each day?
Sorry psgels but I”‘m going to have to agree with all the other people,feel free to say you think DW is a good anime but you’re in no place to judge it as an adaptation if you havn’t read the manga.
You need to have read the manga to judge an anime as an adaptation.I don’t consider that statement an opinion,I think it’s a fact.
Judging it as an adaptation means you have to compare it to the manga,how can you compare it to the manga when you havn’t read it?
Again though you’re free to say something like “I don’t know how it fares as an adaptation but I think it’s a good anime”
It’s not about cutting stuff out,the death note Anime cut stuff out from the manga and people didn’t complain for exemple.
IIt’s cutting stuff out that leaves the anime only watchers with a ton of questions or thinking there’s plotholes
You yourself said “as much as I like this show, it does have its share of plotholes”
My favorite aspect of the manga was how it somehow managed to avoid plotholes and make all the insanity somehow logical,a lot of that is lost in the anime.
That being said,doing this show in only one cour was mission impossible to begin with.
I don’t think you need to read the source material to state that you think something is a good adaptation, but I would say that I mean to suggest that there are different ways for something to be a ‘good’ adaptation. The first is to painstakingly duplicate the material in the source, like Monster tries to do. Another is to carry over enough of the essence of a work that the viewer has a sense of fulfillment, because the pacing hasn’t been spoiled, the theme hasn’t been lost, and there aren’t a lot of holes or dangling threads. Since a lot of adaptations fail at this, if someone that hasn’t read the source material tells me they think an adaptation of a work is good, I would take it to mean that they felt this pattern of disaster was averted.
I’ve read the manga. I make no secret that I don’t think it’s particularly good. It has a worthwhile aesthetic that I appreciate in the procession of madness and despair, so I don’t find it without merit; it’s why I read it. On the other hand, I think the work is a little stupid, though not as absurd as Mirai Nikki or King of Thorn. (Mirai Nikki has redeeming features as well, and an adaptation coming up, which I’ll check that out too, despite finding the source material flawed.)
I think the anime is a fair adaptation of something that might have two cours to tell the crux of the story, if it’s lucky. It has removed ‘me too’ characters that don’t change the theme of the work, but instead just duplicate the pattern you’ll find in the characters that are already present. It might lessen some of the weight of the despair of the work, but I doubt it. With the exception of the changes to the race, I haven’t felt that anything they’ve done has made the work stupider, so there’s that at least.
There is only one character that has been removed that really matters for the plot if they happen to do another cour. To be honest, the arc in question is not very clever, but it could still be presented in a hypothetical second cour by introducing the character without the initial backstory, since it’s not that significant. Doing it without messing up the chronology I leave to the director, but given how they handled the changes to the race that set us on this path I would be cautious in assuming the best.
Now as a faithful reproduction of the manga it’s a failure, but I don’t know why anyone assumes that this would ever get the kind of investment necessary to faithfully adapt the whole work. It could have dropped off in the middle of excitement like Zombie Loan or been mangled like Tsubasa or Tegami Bachi. Still, I understand where fans are coming from, even if I don’t happen to share the sentiment here.
The anime moves at a pretty good clip; the manga has a tendency to drag a bit, so I’m not complaining if they did cut things. It’s been a while since I read the manga though, but from what I can tell, the adaptation covers all the important bits. At least, all the stuff I actually remember from the manga.
I’m with psgels with this one. I consider manga and anime separate pieces of work anyway. An manga is the work of an author/mangaka. An anime is the work of a director – so treat them as separate pieces of work. It’s inevitable that comparisons will be made especially by the ones who read the manga first.
This episode broke my heart because up until now, this was maybe my favorite show ever. So many animes have retarded character conflicts like this one that have absolutely no substance behind them. Ok, so i get that one of that characters is silly, but is that really an excuse? The main character asks his friend why she completely ruined the multiple sacrifices and efforts of the resistance, and instead of saying, “Because it was all just a trap and you had no chance,” she says, “I did it because you are weak,” and leaves it at that. Seriously, if you can’t imagine a single realistic reason for your characters to disagree with each other, hire a writer to help you, or remember one argument that you’ve ever had with a friend and use that. There is so much that is great about this show, and I honestly never thought that it would suddenly become so painfully stupid! I’ve recommended this show to every one of my friends already, and because of this episode I’m already regretting it.